The fact remains that softball pitchers are doing the best they can in a game whose rules are stacked against them. I stated an opinion and she came at me with snark and rudeness and you are Darth are calling me out? What else is out there in the world for her? I get it. These "bottle bats" have a very short taper region and are designed to provide a larger hitting area and to allow a hitter to make better contact with the ball for inside pitches. Baseball/Softball is the ONLY sport I can think of that segregates the two sports. Yeah, you kinda come across as upset. Masculinity and femininity are terms that can’t be defined withoutreferencing the other. As the players got bigger, stronger, faster, and could hit the ball harder and further, the game evolved with them and teams at all levels began playing fast pitch. And if you’re a woman, you’re not allowed to decide which one you get to play. I can’t think of one good reason. • You might see one dinger in around every 12 games; homers would be about as extinct as the T-Rex. @jonsblond disabled her account a while ago. This is highly recognizable because a woman who portrays the slightest bit of masculinity, is in turn contrasting femininity and the socially acceptable ideas of what a woman does. When it was invented in the mid 1800’s, it was never intended to be a sport exclusive to women. —- Why does Microsoft exist? Why do pitchers throw overhand in baseball but underhand in softball? So much about baseball control and speed comes from an overhand motion, including the wind-up, the whiplike explosion off the mound, and the follow-through. If that’s what this site has turned into, or if this is what it always was and I just didn’t pay attention, wtf is the point to all this anyway? How many times did you get "OUT" and in what ways? There are thousands of women across America, that for whatever reason DO NOT WANT to play softball. It’s very good that she enjoys what she’s allowed to do. It’s not going to happen over night. @Darth_Algar : “Disabled her account over this? If a girl CAN throw a ball in from center field, and she can make all the other cuts, she should be allowed to play. But you’ll notice that the method of throwing a great underhand softball pitch is quite different from a good baseball pitch. Don’t ask questions. It’s just accepted that softball is “separate but equal.” But it’s not. I wouldn’t say that women who chose to play ringette were not as good athletes as those who chose to play hockey instead. I’ll just ignore it. Maybe it’s even better. . I’m sorry though, after going back and forth with you missing and ignoring almost everything I have to say, I’m over it. This all got started because I kept seeing ads online for items that just completely baffled me. This summer my daughter will be the first female in our town to ever play JFL. • Even if the player was on 3rd, the chances of making it home on a sacrifice fly would be 20%, chances the fly would not go deep enough to beat the throw, and the player too small to get the catcher off the bag. are you a ******* troll ??? Casper, Monica J., and Lisa Jean Moore. If you could, perhaps, step back from your impassioned knee-jerk defense of your daughter’s sport then you might be able to take an objective look at @keobooks posts and realize that she’s not at all saying what you think she is. Just running some numbers for you. This is like the softball where one aspect of a sport comes to represent the cultural ideas we have of gender and sexuality and who’s allowed to perform them. She’s got to think really hard about this. NPF (National Pro Fastpitch) Softball exists for the same reason the WNBA exists. They want to play baseball. It works better than ranting on facebook and fluther. Calm down and go back and read how you started with the snark and insults Keobooks. But believe me, the first woman that comes along who can accurately and consistently deliver a 90mph fastball will be scouted then signed. Hello? I would have played baseball if it had been offered when I was in HS. Poor guys. The coach said no, and that she should go out for the softball team instead. They play regulation golf. I wanted to know why the 1 was different from all the others. When the umpire calls "infield fly” the batter is out, regardless of whether the ball is subsequently caught or dropped. Even though like the girls, they’re there for encouragement and spirit, they aren’t forced to smile and use their brute force to throw the girls in the air. Quiz finished his career with 244 saves out of 674 relief appearances, and an ERA of 2.55. Women played professional and amateur baseball from the late 1800’s, when the sport was first invented until the 1950s, when they were officially barred from it. Many girls have said even though they are legally allowed to play on the boys’ teams, they quit because they spent more time trying to justify their position on the team to others than actually playing their position. That’s a fact. When you hear infield fly called, you no longer have to run if the ball drops. Softball was invented in the 1880s as an alternative to baseball that everyone could enjoy. But I’m sure women have the exact same physical limitations when they play basketball, golf, football and every other sport that women play. You draw upon an impressive array of sources, and have enough here to develop the ideas even further if you wished. @jonsblond , if all you can get out of this is that somehow I don’t appreciate female athletes who play softball, THEN YOU TOTALLY MISSED THE ENTIRE POINT. So, a 33" baseball bat could have weights of 33oz, 32oz, 31oz, and 30oz, but not 29oz. While there is nowhere near the amount of contact between players as there is football, rugby, or even basketball, baseball has had it's share of serious injuries and even death. Sorry for noticing the anomaly, pointing it out, and trying to have a discussion about it. whats wrong with softball? That’s like, totally NOT a total douchebag thing to do. I think I might have made the question rather “Why don’t women play pro baseball?” instead of “Why do women play softball?” Please try again. Price, Cathy. Or should she just give up and go for softball? Contrast this to images of male athletes who are always shown being powerful, intense, and aggressive, such as the Under Armor ad where there is a very muscular man in focus, bulging his muscles and yelling. (Rand, 446) Weir’s gracefulness in skating doesn’t represent the power and intense aspects associated with the male version of his sport, and thus it makes him stand out. “It Takes Balls: Lance Armstrong and the Triumph of American Masculinity.” Politics of Visibility. Juan Marichal was known for throwing overhand, underhand, and sidearm, and had six 20-win seasons and a career ERA of 2.89. Seriously.. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. I looked it up and learned why the two columns existed in the first place. In the case of Lance Armstrong, due to his diagnosis with testicular cancer, he had to have a testicle removed and this threatened his masculinity. But , you know….wtf is the point to this place? Softball and baseball are two very similar games but they are not the same game. In that case, I am going with the anger management advice. Probably not. As the bat barrel expands it returns most of its stored energy to the ball and the resulting ball speed can be significantly higher than it would have been for a wood bat which does not have a trampoline effect. STAFF REPORTS ARE WRITTEN BY THE STRAIGHT DOPE SCIENCE ADVISORY BOARD, CECIL'S ONLINE AUXILIARY. He wasn’t so great, and wasn’t really memorable except for the fact that he was one of the guys and part of the team. Be the change you want. When I started this thread, I believe I made it VERY clear that I was an outsider to sports. I didn’t realize this until much later in the thread. See, I think that’s odd. Yeah exactly! Adult baseball bats also have a long handle of constant width -- but the handle diameter is slightly larger than that of a softball bat. Why can’t I just sit down and be happy with what I’m allowed to have? They can just sign up with their local women’s baseball league and…umm…oh yeah. The principal said no, softball was good enough. Score never lost consciousness but was never the same again. Who are you rooting for in the World Series? Why does it exist? Being indoors, there was no pitching mound, and throwing from this position was considered potentially harmful to a pitcher’s mechanics, so often a coach or manager would simply toss the ball, underhanded, to put it in play for practice purposes. ONCE I gave you a totally snarky comment with nothing else to add to the discussion. The idea within softball is if one plays this sport, then they must be gay or at least assumedly. Mary and her family headlines in the local section of the news for being the first girl ever allowed to tryout for baseball at her high school. It wasn’t until 1973 that softball was offered up as a compromise between people who wanted their daughters to play little league baseball with the boys and people who didn’t want girls playing baseball at all. But from 1830’s (Go Bloomer Girls!) I think you made some very good points about the sport and I learned a lot on this Q about it. I think if baseball were opened up to both genders, softball would be maybe slightly more popular than netball vs basketball in the US. However, variations in the distribution of mass (and the location of the balance point) can make the apparent swing weight of 28oz bat feel much ligher or much heavier than its actual weight. and I know, so angry of me to say so~. This ability is something very exclusively male and by using the terms hard and soft, one without consciously being aware, is bringing in gender into the conversation. Men, women and even children can play it for a super fun time. The reason for this might be because softball itself  “requires speed, strength, and endurance” which are traits typically associated with being masculine. In leisure—especially sports—Column B choices were treated as a more casual and easier alternative to column A choices. The original question seemed pretty straight forward to me. This is why the fields are smaller, the ball is larger (and until a few years ago softer), and certain rules are different (like pitching underhand instead of overhand). A great baseball player in a woman’s league would be reduced to an average player or worse in MLB. So once again, it’s not just “why softball?”—it’s “why not netball?” It’s not just “Why don’t women play baseball?”—It’s “why DO they play basketball?”. Too bad the league is so tiny that there are almost no local teams to join and almost no one for those teams to play against. While it is true that each type of bat is available in a variety of lengths, the bats in the photo represent the most common lengths for each type. Hard relating to the man’s ability to get an erection, and soft a woman’s lack of a phallus. Not at all. The handles are thicker - to add strength so they break less often - and the handle diameter flares out at the know instead of maintening a constant width. Print. A cheerleader form the State Squad said “much of the time putting on a smile is like putting on makeup.” (Grindstaff and West, 157) Her comparison of smiling and makeup further emphasizes how emasculated a male cheerleader might feel participating in this sport. Keobooks totally flipped out on me. At what point is a presidential candidate required to ... What subject/struggles touches most of us? Look. It’s a message I sent to JLeslie. From what I understand there are lots of little league teams around now with persistent girls raising hell. Um, I was never huffy. At some point in history, women had baseball taken away from them and were given softball to replace it. In terms of sexuality, it’s interesting that when you remove the comparison between baseball and softball, softball becomes a highly masculine sport, assumed to have a large number of lesbian players.

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